diff --git a/skins/material3/QskMaterial3Skin.cpp b/skins/material3/QskMaterial3Skin.cpp
index fe00b71d..375a67e5 100644
--- a/skins/material3/QskMaterial3Skin.cpp
+++ b/skins/material3/QskMaterial3Skin.cpp
@@ -130,8 +130,6 @@ namespace
         void setup();
 
       private:
-        QskGraphic symbol( int type ) const { return m_skin->symbol( type ); }
-
         void setupBox();
         void setupCheckBox();
         void setupComboBox();
@@ -159,6 +157,23 @@ namespace
         void setupTextInput();
         void setupTextLabel();
 
+        QskGraphic symbol( const char* url ) const
+        {
+            const auto provider = m_skin->graphicProvider( {} );
+
+            auto graphic = provider->requestGraphic( url );
+            if ( graphic )
+                return *graphic;
+
+            return QskGraphic();
+        }
+
+        void setStandardSymbol( QskAspect aspect,
+            QskStandardSymbol::Type symbolType )
+        {
+            setSymbol( aspect, QskStandardSymbol::graphic( symbolType ) );
+        }
+
         const QskSkin* m_skin;
         const QskMaterial3Theme& m_pal;
     };
@@ -253,11 +268,12 @@ void Editor::setupCheckBox()
 
     setGraphicRole( Q::Indicator | Q::Error, QskMaterial3Skin::GraphicRoleOnError );
 
+    const auto checkMark = symbol( "check_small" );
     for ( auto state : { QskAspect::NoState, Q::Disabled } )
     {
         const auto aspect = Q::Indicator | Q::Checked | state;
-        setSymbol( aspect, symbol( QskStandardSymbol::CheckMark ) );
-        setSymbol( aspect | Q::Error, symbol( QskStandardSymbol::CheckMark ) );
+        setSymbol( aspect, checkMark );
+        setSymbol( aspect | Q::Error, checkMark );
     }
 
     setStrutSize( Q::Ripple, 40_dp, 40_dp );
@@ -346,11 +362,8 @@ void Editor::setupComboBox()
 
     setGraphicRole( Q::OpenMenuGraphic, QskMaterial3Skin::GraphicRoleOnSurface38 );
 
-    setSymbol( Q::OpenMenuGraphic,
-        symbol( QskStandardSymbol::TriangleDown ) );
-
-    setSymbol( Q::OpenMenuGraphic | Q::PopupOpen,
-        symbol( QskStandardSymbol::TriangleUp ) );
+    setSymbol( Q::OpenMenuGraphic, symbol( "combo-box-arrow-closed" ) );
+    setSymbol( Q::OpenMenuGraphic | Q::PopupOpen, symbol( "combo-box-arrow-open" ) );
 }
 
 void Editor::setupBox()
@@ -618,7 +631,7 @@ void Editor::setupSegmentedBar()
     {
         // Graphic
 
-        setSymbol( Q::Graphic, symbol( QskStandardSymbol::SegmentedBarCheckMark ) );
+        setSymbol( Q::Graphic, symbol( "segmented-button-check" ) );
 
         setPadding( Q::Graphic, 0_dp );
         setStrutSize( Q::Graphic, 18_dp, 18_dp );
@@ -925,8 +938,8 @@ void Editor::setupSpinBox()
         setGradient( Q::UpPanel | Q::Increasing, focusColor );
     }
 
-    setSymbol( Q::UpIndicator, symbol( QskStandardSymbol::TriangleUp ) );
-    setSymbol( Q::DownIndicator, symbol( QskStandardSymbol::TriangleDown ) );
+    setSymbol( Q::UpIndicator, symbol( "combo-box-arrow-open" ) );
+    setSymbol( Q::DownIndicator, symbol( "combo-box-arrow-closed" ) );
 
     for( const auto subControl : { Q::DownIndicator, Q::UpIndicator } )
     {
@@ -1379,29 +1392,6 @@ QskMaterial3Skin::~QskMaterial3Skin()
 {
 }
 
-QskGraphic QskMaterial3Skin::symbol( int symbolType ) const
-{
-    const auto provider = graphicProvider( {} );
-
-    switch ( symbolType )
-    {
-        case QskStandardSymbol::CheckMark:
-            return *( provider->requestGraphic( "check_small" ) );
-
-        case QskStandardSymbol::SegmentedBarCheckMark:
-            return *( provider->requestGraphic( "segmented-button-check" ) );
-
-        case QskStandardSymbol::TriangleDown:
-            return *( provider->requestGraphic( "combo-box-arrow-closed" ) );
-
-        case QskStandardSymbol::TriangleUp:
-            return *( provider->requestGraphic( "combo-box-arrow-open" ) );
-
-        default:
-            return Inherited::symbol( symbolType );
-    }
-}
-
 void QskMaterial3Skin::setupFonts()
 {
     Inherited::setupFonts( QStringLiteral( "Roboto" ) );
diff --git a/skins/material3/QskMaterial3Skin.h b/skins/material3/QskMaterial3Skin.h
index 221eb538..9262bc50 100644
--- a/skins/material3/QskMaterial3Skin.h
+++ b/skins/material3/QskMaterial3Skin.h
@@ -126,8 +126,6 @@ class QSK_MATERIAL3_EXPORT QskMaterial3Skin : public QskSkin
     QskMaterial3Skin( const QskMaterial3Theme&, QObject* parent = nullptr );
     ~QskMaterial3Skin() override;
 
-    virtual QskGraphic symbol( int symbolType ) const override;
-
     enum GraphicRole
     {
         GraphicRoleOnError,
diff --git a/src/controls/QskSkin.cpp b/src/controls/QskSkin.cpp
index 47eb8f0d..5bc38b4a 100644
--- a/src/controls/QskSkin.cpp
+++ b/src/controls/QskSkin.cpp
@@ -326,13 +326,6 @@ const std::unordered_map< int, QskColorFilter >& QskSkin::graphicFilters() const
     return m_data->graphicFilters;
 }
 
-QskGraphic QskSkin::symbol( int symbolType ) const
-{
-    // should this one be somehow related to the platform icons ???
-    return QskStandardSymbol::graphic(
-        static_cast< QskStandardSymbol::Type >( symbolType ) );
-}
-
 void QskSkin::addGraphicProvider(
     const QString& providerId, QskGraphicProvider* provider )
 {
diff --git a/src/controls/QskSkin.h b/src/controls/QskSkin.h
index 723b0115..fe896bb8 100644
--- a/src/controls/QskSkin.h
+++ b/src/controls/QskSkin.h
@@ -68,8 +68,6 @@ class QSK_EXPORT QskSkin : public QObject
     void setupFonts( const QString& family,
         int weight = -1, bool italic = false );
 
-    virtual QskGraphic symbol( int symbolType ) const;
-
     void addGraphicProvider( const QString& providerId, QskGraphicProvider* );
     QskGraphicProvider* graphicProvider( const QString& providerId ) const;
     bool hasGraphicProvider() const;
diff --git a/src/dialogs/QskMessageSubWindow.cpp b/src/dialogs/QskMessageSubWindow.cpp
index 38392769..e9a9e236 100644
--- a/src/dialogs/QskMessageSubWindow.cpp
+++ b/src/dialogs/QskMessageSubWindow.cpp
@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@
 #include "QskGraphic.h"
 #include "QskGraphicLabel.h"
 #include "QskLinearBox.h"
-#include "QskSkin.h"
+#include "QskStandardSymbol.h"
 #include "QskTextLabel.h"
 
 #include <qfontmetrics.h>
@@ -130,7 +130,13 @@ void QskMessageSubWindow::setSymbolSource( const QUrl& url )
 
 void QskMessageSubWindow::setSymbolType( int symbolType )
 {
-    setSymbol( effectiveSkin()->symbol( symbolType ) );
+#if 1
+    const auto graphic = QskStandardSymbol::graphic(
+        static_cast< QskStandardSymbol::Type >( symbolType ) );
+#else
+    const auto graphic = symbolHint( ... ); // TODO
+#endif
+    setSymbol( graphic );
 }
 
 QUrl QskMessageSubWindow::symbolSource() const
diff --git a/src/dialogs/QskMessageWindow.cpp b/src/dialogs/QskMessageWindow.cpp
index 13e40c79..b12195b5 100644
--- a/src/dialogs/QskMessageWindow.cpp
+++ b/src/dialogs/QskMessageWindow.cpp
@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@
 #include "QskGraphicLabel.h"
 #include "QskGraphic.h"
 #include "QskLinearBox.h"
-#include "QskSkin.h"
+#include "QskStandardSymbol.h"
 #include "QskTextLabel.h"
 #include "QskTextOptions.h"
 
@@ -135,8 +135,14 @@ void QskMessageWindow::setSymbolSource( const QUrl& url )
 
 void QskMessageWindow::setSymbolType( int symbolType )
 {
-    const auto skin = m_data->symbolLabel->effectiveSkin();
-    setSymbol( skin->symbol( symbolType ) );
+#if 1
+    const auto graphic = QskStandardSymbol::graphic(
+        static_cast< QskStandardSymbol::Type >( symbolType ) );
+#else
+    const auto graphic = symbolHint( ... ); // TODO
+#endif
+
+    setSymbol( graphic );
 }
 
 QUrl QskMessageWindow::symbolSource() const